Tuesday, March 05, 2013

NCAAT elimination game? @ Ole Miss

It's senior night in Oxford which probably makes the task even more daunting... TV is ESPNU at 9PM EST (I usually put this at the end of the post). Ole Miss is 15-1 at home (loss to Kentucky).
Ole Miss preview

Marshall Henderson and Murphy Holloway lead the team @ 19.5 and 14.8 PPG. That's about how much we average as a team (I kid). Henderson has jacked 320 of his 432 shots from 3. Holloway is almost averaging a double-double a game (9.8 boards). Jarvis Summers is the team assist leader and 2nd best 3 pt shooter while Reginald Buckner is 2nd on the team in boards (7.6). Ladarius White is their best 3pt shooter (39.1%).

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Key to the game... get the ball to Releford. He's been on fire lately and we need his production. It would be nice if Lacey decides to get in the game and Jacobs plays to the level of competition.

Sorry for the short review.... the day job is getting in the way today.

38 comments:

crimsontider said...

Doug Shows is officiating. Stinks

crimsontider said...

Marshall Henderson is a thug.

RichTide said...

Just got home from library and saw the halftime score. About what I expected. Let me guess: Doug Shows making sure every close foul goes against Bama (someone needs to do a statistical analysis on this dude, it can't be close). Bama guards (trying to slow SEC's top offense) dribbling around perimeter only to jack up a desperate 3 or dribble drive the lane, only to have Buckner and Holloway collapse and block or alter a missed shot. Ole Piss saves all their shots in the MSU game for tonight and hitting lights out with Henderson going for 25+. Was hoping Bama could pull it out but we always play like sh!t in the Tad Pad. Grant suffers his second worst defeat. Piss will score 80 and Bama loses by 25. Unless LSU beats Ole Piss or UTK beats Mizzou Bama will be the #4 or 5 seed in SECT.

crimsontider said...

Anthony Grant sitting there with his hands to his face doing nothing while we are getting effortlessly pounded in a must win game is making me disgusted. No effort, no pride, no nothing. Coaching

RichTide said...

Shocking. Ole Piss shooting FTs with 11 min to go in the game. I wouldn't be surprised to see us lose to Georgia with this effort. Did we play ANY defense in the first half? I've seen little this half. And that's all a Grant team can hang its hat on unfortunately...

crimsontider said...

Not one moment in this game, has Alabama even acted like they care. What a disgrace.

RichTide said...

Well in the last 5 min Bama goes to frantic, find the open guy and shoot offense and scores 31, 58 in the second half which is usually our full game average. Wonder how Bama could play if they were allowed to play fast and loose every game. In HS these players shot well off the quick catch and release. OM went 17-20 at the FT line to prevent an historic collapse.

Msmilie said...

Very disappointing. The biggest game of the year and Alabama came out with no energy or sense of purpose until the last couple of minutes. That's inexcusable. 14 first half turnovers in the biggest game of the season. In a game where Bama's defense had to set the tone, the team played one of the worst defensive games I've seen during the Grant tenure. Ole Miss did whatever they wanted to do on the offensive end all night. Not once did Alabama make it difficult for them to score. In the second half, Alabama was better on the offensive end, but could not get a single stop when it counted in order to make a run. Ole Miss hit shots, they made their free throws down the stretch, they wanted it more from the opening tip and it showed. There were some poor calls in the game (Marshall Henderson is a worthless punk and should have been ejected for two fouls that normally are called as flagrant) but it was ultimately decided by an Alabama team that seemingly had no interest in staying in the at-large conversation. For their sins, they now have to win the SEC tournament in order to return to the NCAA tournament.



Very disappointed in this team. Time after time this season they've had opportunities to make a statement and they either couldn't beat a better team or simply didn't play with the focus and sense of urgency necessary. I'm going to pull for this team on Saturday, pull for them in Nashville and then pull for them in what will probably be the NIT tournament, but the clock is ticking on forward momentum for this program. I support this coaching staff to the fullest, but if you're making progress as a program, it's the games like tonight, the one in Gainesville, the one in Baton Rouge that you've got to break through and win. You've got to win them!


The worst part about tonight is Bama has put themselves in a position in which they could lose a shot at the double bye in the tournament. They now must win at home on Saturday against a tough Georgia team and hope LSU and Tennessee can deliver home victories over Missouri and Ole Miss just to stay in the SEC double bye. It's very tough sometimes loving this basketball team so much.

Msmilie said...

I just went on a rant, but I do want to take the moment to tip the hat to Retin and Nick tonight. They were the only ones who competed for 40 minutes. Retin brought energy and Nick had a career high in scoring. Coach just said in the postgame interview with the radio crew that he needs to get Retin more minutes. I wholeheartedly agreed. Just got to get over this one and get ready for Georgia. That game means a hell of a lot for SEC seeding. Roll Tide, guys.

Msmilie said...

Dude, it was fluky shooting spurred by the desperation of losing. Nothing more. If they had that urgency to start the game, we're probably talking about a big win.

crimsontider said...

Typical, 23 points in 3 minutes will cloud some people's judgement on a game where Alabama gave no effort for 37 minutes. Well it wont cloud mine. Im not sure what happens next, but one thing is for sure, there needs to be a long conversation between Mal Moore, and CAG at seasons end. Something in Grants demeanor has changed. Seems a lot like CMG's final few years. He has always been calm, but now he just sits with his hands to his face, with a bored look on his face. Iv'e defended you coach, cant do it anymore. This is the weakest bubble ever, and we are still not on it in year 4 of the Grant era. There is nothing that justifies paying a coach 2 mil a year, for the results being produced. Anybody else notice that Steele's attitude has also changed, and his playing time has been reduced. There has seemingly been a falling out between CAG and Steele. Kind of like CMG's falling out with Ron at the end of his tenure. The injuries are not an excuse. And no I am not interested in bringing Grant back for another year just so we can go 19-13 miss the NCAAT again, and run this seemingly stale program further into the ground. This is not acceptable. When does Bruce Pearl's show cause end?

RichTide said...

Not so sure. Many of these guys were prolific scorers in HS...from the outside. My neighbor did HS officiating and said Lacey, Randolph and Cooper were all catch and release shooters. In Bama's O they are expected to pass the ball around the perimeter, dribble drive or force a 3 at the end of the shot clock. Too bad it tok 35 min to realize they have confidence in their shot with a kick out to the open man and a catch and shoot. Heck that's what that punk Henderson does. And JJ Reddick from years ago. And Stephon Curry...

RichTide said...

Agree Tider. Steele's role and PT has changed. No longer the on-court coach. As for Retin's play the last few games...where has he been all season?! Could have used him when Steele was out hurt early in the season. Speaks again to Grant's poor roster management.If this guy can play for a country team why wasn't he even seeing 5 min in a loss against Tulane or Mercer? I wanted so badly for Grant to succeed but there are just some recurring fundamental issues with his teams that all the message boards have pointed out time and again. Bama will scrape by UGa and get the #4 seed when LSU upsets Ole Miss, win one game, then get trounced by 20 to the Gators if Donovan thinks he can get a 1 seed by winning. Bama will be #2 seed in the NIT.

crimsontider said...

No, what will happen is we get the 5 seed scrape by South Carolina, than lose to Florida by only 6 points, gaining a moral victory, and getting Grant another year. Grant seems to do just enough to get by, every year, but in year 4 just enough is not enough especially when you are paying a coach 2 mil a year, there are plenty of coaches that would run to Tuscaloosa for half that money and do at least what Grant does. His product, and program are growing stale.

crimsontider said...

Will always support this team, but the progress of the program is concerning.

Msmilie said...

Guys. I'm too emotionally drained from this game tonight to get into an argument about this, but Andrew Steele is playing on fumes. I think his ankle injury and his body as a whole is far more severe than we think and he's simply hobbling to the end of his career. God bless him, it's been a rough ride for him. No one deserves to play in a Senior Day game more than him, but he's simply just trying to ride this out. Coaching is in his future and I wouldn't be surprised if he's still with the team in some capacity next season, which should dispel any idea that there's a rift between him and Coach.



The leadership role has gone to Releford. He's the one out there talking to guys, trying to keep them involved. Steele is doing what he can, but I'm telling you he's limited. As far as Retin. I don't care what national team he was on, he was not prepared for the speed of the game earlier in the season. He struggled handling the ball in traffic and didn't show much on either end. He's improved over the course of the year and now is playing with confidence.


The SEC seeding is still up in the air. Kentucky has two very tough games left on the road at Georgia and home against Florida. Missouri has to go to Knoxville for a game that Tennessee must win to stay on the bubble and Ole Miss is going to LSU, who have been pretty rock solid at home this season. As long as Alabama doesn't lay an egg at home on Saturday, I still like their chances to finish in the top four and get the double bye.

crimsontider said...

Agreed that Steele is running on fumes, but don't give me this stuff about how Retin wasn't ready he always hustles and provides a spark, he should have played.

crimsontider said...

It also does not say a lot than in the biggest game of the year with NCAAT hopes and dreams on the line, we came out flat. Coaching.

Msmilie said...

I'm not giving you shit, man. Go back and watch the fucking games. The guy was not physically or mentally (not stupid, it's just the game was coming too fast for him) capable of being productive for long stretches. I've watched every game that was televised multiple times over the season . I'm not talking out of my ass here.

crimsontider said...

"I thought it was a great team effort tonight, our guys really battled"- Anthony Grant
(yes our coach actually said that after TONIGHTS game)

Msmilie said...

Better yet, ask DJC for his opinion of Retin. It may not jive with mine, but DJC has attended a majority of the games this season so he's been front and center.

crimsontider said...

Maybe he wasn't but at least he gave effort, something the rest of the team did not give much of during the Tulane and Mercer games. A more concerning issue is why Grant allowed Hankerson and Eblen to leave the team due to lack of playing time, and then signed only one player. Roster management has not been good.

Msmilie said...

Hankerson and Eblen chose to leave the team. What was Grant supposed to do, hold them hostage? Hankerson knew his playing time was limited with a backcourt of Releford, Lacey, Randolph, Cooper and Steele (when healthy). Eblen left in order to wrap up his academics. From what I read, the coaching staff expected Hankerson to return. Every major program in the country is being hit by the transfer bug, regardless of stature. It's why coaches are fighting for stricter transfer rules.

crimsontider said...

Why only sign player then? Sick of mediocrity, just not enough improvement. Does the program have an identity? What is it?

Msmilie said...

That's coach-speak. Grant knows tonight was not a good effort, but I think he's trying to keep their heads up now that an SEC tournament run is a certainty. Breaking them down at this point does nothing.

crimsontider said...

True, but it does kind of remind you of Gottfried's final few years. Always "Proud"

crimsontider said...

I do like Grant, but at some point you have to start winning these types of games, and giving people a reason to believe.

Msmilie said...

The expectation late last season was that the team would have 12 scholarship players returning so there would only be one scholarship to give. With that in mind, the staff put all of their eggs into the Pollard basket because he was the guy they really wanted.

Unfortunately, the Tony Mitchell decision came to head at the tail end of the year when he was dismissed from the program so he's not coming back. Unfortunately, who do you recruit that late in the game? Alabama had offered some other guys but they signed with other schools. Then Hankerson and Eblen surprised the coaching staff over the summer by electing to leave. All of sudden you've gone from one open scholarship to four, but what quality players do you get that late in the game without a scouting report or a chance to get to know the players to make sure they fit the culture and system? The answer is you don't get a quality player that late in the game. So Grant and his staff decided to save the scholarships. Factor in Engstrom's injury (an injury that looms large over the season in retrospect) and suddenly you've got a lot less bodies on the bench. Now, it's on Grant and his staff to add some more guys with Taylor and Hale for next season (and they do have offers pending to several guys for the 2013 class), but they got pinched this past year by the Mitchell mess last year and the decisions by Eblen and Hankerson to bail.

Msmilie said...

I am in agreement with you on this point.I said as much in my rant. At some point, Alabama has to take the next step and start winning important games. They did it last year with the UT and @Arkansas games that put them back on track to make the tournament. Consistency is vital for Grant and the program next season.

Msmilie said...

Actually, I don't hear him use that kind of language often after the losses. In fact, he has really challenged his teams more than once during his tenure. I think the fact he used it tonight means this team is fragile right now and he's trying to keep them going by using encouragement.

crimsontider said...

Ive heard that Taylor's offensive game is still not well rounded enough. I think people are relying too much on him as a freshman next year.

Msmilie said...

Oh, I don't expect him to do much from an offensive perspective, but he is a long, athletic guy who can guard the rim. A poor man's Nerlens Noel if you will.

crimsontider said...

We can hope, Pollard has been a devastating dissapointment this year, and I just think it is asking too much to depend so much on a freshman, after what has happened with Devonta.

crimsontider said...

Ill add to that by saying that we usually win at least one or two games a year that we are not expected to win, we have not done that this year. We have not beaten anybody worth note on the road either.

bobbyjack said...

A 30000 ft overview... I don't think we get 100% effort from the team or coaching staff. It's always someone steps up while others struggle.

RAY said...

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/21823520/uclas-ben-howland-on-his-past-his-future-and-yes-bill-walton-too

RAY said...

So that everyone knows there are coaches out there with significantly greater accomplishments than Anthony Grant facing unemployment for failing to meet expectations. Grant IS NOT being singled out unfairly.

DJC said...

As much as I would like us to be, we aren't UCLA.