Saturday, March 16, 2013

Still fighting- SECT vs Florida

Here's the preview from the last time we played them. Bottom line is we got to contain their bigs to have a chance. Either that or Releford, Lacey, and Cooper hit 50% combined from 3. Nick Jacobs had a decent game the last time we played and we will need his production again, but more importantly we need him, Gueye, and Pollard to rebound.

I am hoping the Gators are on cruise control for this one. I think they are pretty much a 3 seed regardless of this tournament (at least that's what I'm hoping) so there's not much to be gained by beating us. Also, Donovan owes Grant a solid... doesn't he want his pupil to taste moderate success for the 2nd year in a row? Donovan should be more concerned resting his stars for the NCAAT instead of exerting them in a tournament that means little to them.

If we win it's still 50-50 on if that is enough to get us to Dayton, but I think if we win today we'll win the WHOLE DANG THING! That would probably put us as a 10 seed which I'd prefer over a 8/9. Root for us (obviously) and root for Vanderbilt later on. Also, root for UNC and VCU today if we shock the world.

Game time is 1PM EST on ESPN. Let's hope DJC pulls us through.

42 comments:

bobbyjack said...

On ABC, not Espn ... unless you want to watch ACC hoops.

Msmilie said...

This one almost went down exactly like the game in Gainesville. I love our team and I love their effort, but Florida is simply the better team and program right now. Our guys bust their asses in this game, outplay Florida in stretches, but have a tough stretch themselves over a couple of minutes, and, bam, they lose the game. To beat a team like Florida, you have to play at a high level for 40 minutes, and Alabama just hasn't been able to do that consistently. Some of it is youth, some of it is coaching decisions, and then some of it is the ability to make a play. Retin misses a wide open layup, Levi misses the front end of a one and one. Make those plays and perhaps things end differently. If you want to be a great team, you have to make winning plays.

In both games, when Florida went to another gear, Alabama simply didn't have what it took to match them. Great teams like Florida can go to that next level, but they also need some luck. Boynton had been shooting awful recently, but in a span of a few minutes he goes off, provides the spark Florida needs, and we're suddenly looking at an NIT bid. Another instance is when Levi rebounds the ball, is tripped, no call is made, and Young slams the ball to push the lead to 8. Alabama has had its share of good fortune this year, but it hasn't happened much in the games that really mattered.

Alabama has shown some toughness this year in overcoming the December debacle and had a great effort yesterday in beating a very good Tennessee team, but the next step this program has to take is get over the hump against the top teams in the league like Florida. The other thing this program has to do next season is avoid the slumps that have hurt their resume in recent years. If Alabama doesn't drop home games against Dayton, Tulane, Mercer or play with no energy in a loss to a horrible Auburn team, a win or loss today probably doesn't matter as much.

This loss will probably put them in the NIT. Personally, I have no problem with the NIT. I think it's a good tournament since the NCAA took it over and started using a selection committee. That has made it a better event and I think it provides teams good games to end the season. With that said, I know the majority of fans believe that the NCAA Tournament is what makes a program relevant so this season will probably be judged harshly by the fans. I respect that opinion even if I don't necessarily agree with it. Regardless, year five will be very important for Anthony Grant.

RAY said...

" I have no problem with the NIT. I think it's a good tournament since the NCAA took it over and started using a selection committee."

RAY said...

the problem w/ the NIT, if i were to say we don't need to go, the reply would be that we need the practice.

uh oh........http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Irkr8YOjclg&feature=endscreen

crimsontider said...

4 years 2 mil a year. Getting outscored 34-14 in the final 15 minutes of a must win game!!
1-13 against top 24 teams. Nowhere near the NCAAT in year 5!


Fire Anthony Grant!!!

crimsontider said...

Tweet from Charvez Davis: "AG blew it." Former players agree Fire Grant!

crimsontider said...

Bruce pearl will make the NCAAT before Grant does. It could be with Alabama. Why not?

Msmilie said...

Fire Anthony Grant because Bama loses to a top 10 Florida team. Makes sense........

Msmilie said...

People could have read that, themselves, asshole. Do you want to make a point or not? And, no, Iverson's dumb ass does not make the point.

Msmilie said...

Because Bruce Pearl is a worthless, lying sack of shit. You want to replace Grant, fine. Just replace him with someone worth a damn as a human being.

Msmilie said...

I'm not happy with an NIT bid, but I don't share the perception that the NIT is a joke. Is that fair enough, you hardline piece of shit.

Msmilie said...

Perhaps you would care to share Mikhail Torrance's responses to Charvez. And Charvez never said fire Grant. He was critical, but hardly calling for the man's job. Get a life.

Msmilie said...

It's year four, and being on the bubble is near the NCAAT. Just sayin'

crimsontider said...

People who do not want to hire Bruce Pearl because of his failings as a human being should recall some of the stuff Wimp did, and how he is still a hero here. If you are hesitant to hire Bruce Pearl because of his moral failings, fine, but I am sure you will forget about them the first time Pearl takes us to a sweet 16.

crimsontider said...

Not even in the next 4 out going into selection sunday in the weakest NCAAT field in years.

crimsontider said...

I want to fire him because we never beat any really good team. The fact that we have enough talent to constantly get big leads against those teams, proves that we have enough talent to beat them. There are coaches that can unlock that talent.

Msmilie said...

I don't know enough about what happened with Wimp to comment, but I've heard more than a few Tide fans say Wimp got a raw deal in regards to the situation you're referring to. We know that Pearl lied to the NCAA with a straight face. Dude, all opinions aside regarding Grant. You want a new coach, fair enough. Just don't be seduced by scum like Bruce Pearl.

crimsontider said...

Fine, but there are coaches that we can get that will unlock this untapped pontential we have. I feel we have more talent and potential as a program than some give us credit for, and I feel like we are wasting it. Another thing, I don't think CAG really wants to be here. I have always felt that way, but mostly kept quiet about it. The waiting around for the Florida job, the Illinois rumors, his demeanor, and the fact that he does not campaign enough for the program. It just seems he is trying to use Alabama as a stepping stone job (which he has been unsuccessful at doing). It has always rubbed me the wrong way.

Msmilie said...

The program is still a work-in-progress. Frustrating, yes. But facts are facts and Billy Donovan has a well-established program (that Grant helped him build) while Grant is still trying to build this program into an annual contender. Let me ask you this: if Bama had been awarded a bid two years ago as they should have been (UAB and USC being chosen over Bama was a joke) and Bama has back-to-back bids coming into this season, would you give Grant a pass on an NIT bid this season? At least do this for me. The roster next year is experienced with front and backcourt depth. At least give the man one more year with all of the pieces in place. It's the first year, barring any transfers or injuries, that all of the pieces will be in place. If Bama is mediocre next year, I'll jump on the wagon with you. Is that fair?

I just don't think you guys realize how difficult it is to build a program from scratch, particularly when the sport in question receives minimal support. The man is busting his hump to turn this thing around, but it takes time. Gottfried left the program in a hole. At least Donovan had the benefit of following Lon Kruger at Florida.

Having said that, Grant has missed on some recruits and some of the guys we thought would have immediate impacts haven't. Recruiting has been solid, but I'll admit it needs to pick up. Concerning in-game coaching, the only issue I have with Grant is that he doesn't always use his timeouts wisely. Outside of that, the team is usually prepared well and plays hard most nights for the man. Stick with Anthony Grant. I don't think you'll disappointed.

crimsontider said...

The talent of next years team is why I think we should fire him now. Bruce Pearl goes to the sweet 16 with that talent. If i am Bama I give Kevin stallings a call. Offer him a large amount of money, and see if he will come the worst he thing he will say is no, and Alabama is and always will be a better job than Vandy. Answer me this M, sure Alabama is better than when Grant first got here, but are we better than say 2 years ago? Don't think so. Bottom line: This could have been our year, the NCAAT field is as weak as it will ever be and year 4 is when you should be able to start expecting big things from coaches, as they normally have all their players in by then, but due to poor recruiting/roster management/ attrition we inexcusably missed the field. As for your question, I am not sure if I would have given Grant a pass if he had made it two years ago, and the question is irrelevant yes we were robbed but there is no excuse for what happened at the Virgin islands that year, we had our chances.

crimsontider said...

And now this from Don Krausler of the B'ham News: "I'm not that guy" said Anthony Grant when asked about other coaches campaigning for NCAAT bids. I realize we have virtually no shot, but it is not asking too much of CAG to at least state a case. Why can't Anthony at least act like he has some love and appreciation for Alabama?

Msmilie said...

Are we better than two years ago? I would say the team two years ago was better, but similar circumstances. Bad losses early in the non-conference schedule really put the team behind the eight ball (I don't want to hear another person say the college basketball regular season doesn't matter) and we couldn't overcome a power team in the conference tournament. There's no excuse for losing home games to Dayton, Mercer and Tulane if we're truly going to take the next step. That has been a disappointment. I would argue though that we've yet to have a balanced team. Next year they will have depth inside and outside. They have a chance to be really good. Another inconsistent year with those pieces in place and I'd be open to some changes.

Msmilie said...

Frankly, I don't want him groveling for a bid like Seth Greenberg. They just have to get it done during the season. They had their chances down the stretch.

crimsontider said...

If we are not at least a top 6 seed next year, than it should be obvious Grant is not the right man for the job.

crimsontider said...

It just further proves my point that he is just not happy here.

Msmilie said...

Why, because he refuses to get on one knee in front of the cameras and plead for his inconsistent team to be gifted a bid? This team doesn't deserve a bid. 1-5 in December, a bad loss at Auburn, multiple lost opportunities on the road at LSU, Florida and Ole Miss. They just didn't get it done. There's no point in pleading for a bid. That's not a lack of respect for Alabama, that's just common sense.

crimsontider said...

We don't deserve a bid, we will not get a bid. That does not mean the coach should not at least try to get one, look at Saban arguing his case for the BCSNCG after losing in each of the past two years.

Msmilie said...

Uh, yeah, because Alabama was clearly one of the top two teams and had a resume to back it up. He had a legitimate argument. I think you're upset with Grant and the loss today so you're looking for reasons to dislike him more so you're pulling this "Grant doesn't like Alabama" stuff out of your ass. Anthony Grant was front and center after the tornado and was very vocal in his respect for the community and fan support. If you think he doesn't care about being the guy to take this program to the next level, you're crazy.

crimsontider said...

I think he cares about the program, but I also think he is trying to use the job as a stepping stone job.

crimsontider said...

Grant had a legitimate argument two years ago, did not seem that he did much arguing then.

Msmilie said...

If that was the case, he could have left already. I know Georgia Tech and Illinois have shown interest in the last two years. You keep calling for his head so you should be thrilled if he decides to leave.

RAY said...

"I just don't think you guys realize how difficult it is to build a program from scratch, particularly when the sport in question receives minimal support"


yeah just ask jim larranaga

RAY said...

"I like to think we're getting better as a team," Grant said. "I like to think I'm getting better as a coach and learning more in terms of what's going to be required of our players and myself and the staff to help us try to build a championship-level program."

and the staff??

"Right now I'm trying to figure out what caused us to lose this game," he said.

He was asked if he could make a case for his team.

"I don’t do that," Grant said. "We’ve played how many games now?"

But some coaches do politick for their teams, Grant was told. (i would describe it as getting out there and making a case FOR your team)

"I’m not that guy," he said.



look, in the position Grant's in, there's just not a lot he's going to say that's gonna make everyone happy. Grant has never been a confident sounding public speaker. his interviews are hard to listen to.


but "I don't do that"?


"I'm not that guy"??


these are NOT things Anthony Grant needs to be saying right now.

RAY said...

you know, i was gonna let this go but the language, the language, m.


you say you have "no problem" with the NIT. you think it's a "good tournament"


but, you're "not happy" with a bid to a tournament you just called "good" and told us you have "no problem" with.


how can this be, m?? how can you not be "happy" with an invite to a (in your words) "good" tournament??? (i think you called it "underrated" in another post)


the fact is, m, you ARE "happy" with that bid because without it your 3-post-season-tournaments-in-four-years knee jerk defense of Grant is a fairy tale.


"fair" is shooting straight with us, "happy".

crimsontider said...

Illinois did not want him, Grant just played it that way to get a raise. Illinois got a coach that they had ahead of Grant on there list, a guy who is currently doing a great job rebuilding their program. If Illinois actually wanted Grant he would have left in a New York minute with the money they were throwing at some candidates.

crimsontider said...

You hit it on the head, Ray. Grant does not inspire confidence. Grant inspires mediocrity. Everything about this coach and this program screams mediocrity. That is because it is mediocre, and it will be as long as we continue to let Grant roam the bench in an empty Coleman Coliseum.

Msmilie said...

Oh god, are you still wanking Larranaga? He hasn't built that program, he inherited those players. Are you also going to tell me that Bruce Weber is suddenly John Wooden because Frank Martin left him a team built to win? Let's see what Larranaga does over the next few years before you use him as inspiration, finebammer.

Msmilie said...

Well, Finebammer, your ignorance and lack of respect causes me to use that type of language. I don't like you, plain and simple, therefore I'm not going to play nice with your type of human. Got that?

I don't have a problem with the NIT as a tournament, unlike some people who mock the tournament as having no worth for the teams that take part in it. But I was hoping Alabama would be able to return to the NCAA and build off the bid from last year. What is the disconnect? What about that don't you understand? See, the difference between me and you is I won't allow my disappointment in Alabama missing the NCAA tournament to prevent me from rooting for them to win the NIT in order to create a positive from a negative. Positive thinking. I know it's a progressive concept for someone like yourself, but give it a try sometime. You never know, you might like it.

crimsontider said...

Kevin Stallings to Alabama. Make it happen!

crimsontider said...

Anthony Grant is 1-13 vs. top 25 teams at Alabama. 1-3 career NCAAT record. Maybe its not the lack of "Good fortune" like you said, maybe it's the fact that Anthony Grant manages to screw up every single defining game. (i.e: TO at the end of the Creighton game) Like Charvez said "AG blew it" again, and this one pushed me onto the Fire Anthony Grant bandwagon.

RAY said...

positive thinking, brought to us by "happy"!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaoM0FyLmGY&feature=endscreen

RAY said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHFDa9efCQU