Wednesday, May 29, 2013

Add Wichita St to the 2013 OOC schedule...

... 2 game series. We won't be cupcaked this season... now we need to win a few of these games.

(credit- TI messageboard poster Val)

18 comments:

DJC said...

Home and home...I'm generally not crazy about agreeing to go on the road to play midmajors, but the Shockers have established themselves as a solid program year in and year out, so this isn't a bad move.

Msmilie said...

Should be a great series. That road game in 2014-15 will be tough. The fan support for basketball at Wichita is fantastic. Mark Turgeon got it started, but Marshall is taking it to another level. Nothing but respect for the job he's doing there.

crimsontider said...

Good, we should have a top 10 SOS going into conference play, hopefully this team wins some of these games, and most importantly, does not blow games to inferior competition like they have done almost every December under Anthony Grant.

crimsontider said...

Did anyone see where the SEC, is looking for a permanant site for the SECT. I've never been to one of those things, (hope to eventually), so my perspective probably is not the best, but I think Nashville would be the best option for that.

Msmilie said...

Nashville will probably be chosen, but I would prefer Atlanta or New Orleans. If I had to choose between the three to live, I'd probably choose Nashville, but if it comes down to traveling to a city for a few days of a basketball tournament and general debauchery, I'll take the Big Easy and the ATL every single time.

Msmilie said...

I was wondering when the dig at Anthony Grant was coming.

crimsontider said...

What "Dig at Anthony Grant" are you referring to?

CrowTide said...

This seems to take the place of the VCU game. Good game for Grant to pick up. Although I would still like t o see a higher profile team than this come to Coleman

crimsontider said...

Wichita should be a top 15 team, and they went to the final 4 last year, they are high profile.

Msmilie said...

Well, UCLA is coming in next season.

To be honest, the home and home series between power conference schools are fading. Everything is now neutral floor, NBA arena. Which I hate, because I think it robs fans (and players) of a great experience. The neutral sites are cool as far as making a trip out of it, but the game atmospheres themselves suck and attendance is usually poor. Texas and UCLA played last year in Reliant Stadium in Houston. Maybe 2500 people showed up. It was fricken embarrassing.Now, if UCLA had come to Austin and played in the Frank Erwin Center, it's probably a near capacity crowd and would have made for a great atmosphere. Instead, Texas and UCLA thought it better to play in a place resembling a mausoleum. .

Coaches just don't want to schedule meaningful home and homes even though it's a win/win for two power conference schools and their fans. I can understand to a degree why a major conference school would not see the need to play a mid-major in a home and home because of the potential blow to their SOS/RPI, but what does someone like Kentucky lose by playing at Indiana?

Kentucky recently released their non-conference schedule. Outside of the Louisville game, which is locked in, the rest of the high profile games Kentucky is playing are on neutral courts with the exception of the North Carolina game, which thankfully resumes next season despite efforts to kill the home and home series.Kentucky fans, who are as passionate as they come, will be treated to the following home games:

UNC Asheville, Northern Kentucky, Robert Morris, Texas-Arlington, Cleveland State, Eastern Michigan, Boise State, Belmont and Louisville. There are some solid mid-majors in there, but the UK season ticket holder wants a little more spice in their home court diet. I can't imagine most Kentucky fans are thrilled with this non-conference slate. If you're a UK fan and want to see the best non-conference teams on the schedule, I hope you put back some moolah because you're going to have to travel to Chicago, Arlington, and Brooklyn to see any meaningful games outside of the game in Chapel Hill. For some people this may not be a problem, but most guys and dolls just don't have the means to fly to several different cities in a two month span to cheer for their favorite team.



Long story short: embrace the fact that Alabama fans will be able to see two very good programs visit Tuscaloosa the next two seasons because it's becoming a rarity across the sport.

CrowTide said...

Crimsontider, u think I don't know who Wichita St. is? They aren't high profile. Ask someone on the streets of alabama how well they did last year and they won't have a clue who they even are. I have always made the argument that we need to bring a Duke or Carolina type name to Coleman. That will pack out the place and if we luck out and win it might actually generate some fan interest. Wich St. is no different than VCU coming to town. The gym wasn't packed because the average person didn't know who they were. As smilie said it is just to hard to get a big name team to come play u. Now I am personally looking forward to getting to see Wichita. I certainly I was rooting for them to win the tournament last year.

DJC said...

Agree about NOLA, but ATL is AUful (sorry Bobby). The Georgia Dome may be the worst venue for basketball I've ever experienced, and there isn't a whole lot to do in the immediate area surrounding the dome either. If they played in Phillips, I would be open to that, but Nashville and New Orleans are my top choices.


I don't really like the idea of a permanent site. I know it's worked well in other sports, but I enjoy the variety of going to different places. I would like to see it rotate from Nashville, Nola, Memphis, Atlanta, with maybe occasional trips to Louisville and Kansas City included.

bobbyjack said...

None taken... I think the GADome is horrible for the SECT... although it wasn't bad for the NC game.

Being that the dome is about 4 yrs from being destroyed I suspect Philips Arena will be a regular venue. ATL is the home of SEC sports and IMHO championships should be played here. That... and its like 25 mins from my house.

crimsontider said...

Alabama fans aren't stupid, they saw that Wichita State played in the final 4 last year. The VCU game was the day after the Iron Bowl in 2011, so that may have had something to do with it. If i remember correctly, Alabama still had a decent crowd that night. Look, schedule whoever you want, but if you really want fans to start showing up, stop going to the NIT, (The Nobody's Interested Tournament).

Msmilie said...

A strange comment since it could be argued Bama's best crowds of the season were for the NIT games. Hmmm.

crimsontider said...

I think you misunderstood my comment, if you want to draw better crowds, improve the product. The fact that we are on a plateau is why we can't draw good crowds throughout the season.

CrowTide said...

Tider I dont think u understood my point. I would like to see some good non confernce games at home. Last year we had none. Wichita state is big improvement. But if u think wichita state will create the buzz on campus like some of the traditional basketball powerhouses u are wrong. Big crowds on campus helps recruiting. Of course winning draws crowds that wi rks for any team but that wasn't my point. If I remember right we were about 8-0 when we played VCU at home and it was probably about 60% full. And yes your diehard bama basketball fans know who wichita state is but that makes up about 7K people judging our average crowd size, but the rest of the fair weather fans that would help pack the gym probablydo not.

crimsontider said...

Thats fair, but the VCU game was the day after the Iron Bowl in 2011, which undeniably had something to do with that.