Tuesday, January 28, 2014

Know Your Enemy- @ Auburn Tigers and the battle to .500

UPDATE- GAME IS POSTPONED to Thursday at 8:30PM EST. No TV that I know of. Looking at the weather it should clear up enough for the game to happen.

Winner gets to .500... loser sinks further back. A must win for both. Okay, not really, but it's for state bragging rights (or something).

Official Barn preview.

Before I go on... this one could be delayed by weather (I'm actually thinking it will be) which would be AUsome since the Barn can't celebrate that disgusting football win I erased from my memory in November at halftime.

Note- the Barn have lost 16 straight games in conference (including their brief appearance in the SECT)... the last win... against us in what might've been the worst college basketball game of all-time. They are 0-6 in conference, but note 4 of their losses have been by less than 8 points.

KT Harrell and Chris Denson lead the team at 19.1 and 18.8 a game. KT is shooting 42% from beyond the arc. Tahj Shamsid-Deen runs the offense and drops 9 a game. Asauhn Dixon-Tatum is their big man averaging 6.4 boards to go with his 6PPG. He's not much of an offensive threat, but alters shots coming in with 31 blocks.

Season stats

Some numbers:
- 73.2 PPG
- +1.1 rebound margin
- 45% FG

I have no idea how this one goes, but it probably will be ugly. The game was to be played at 8PM tomorrow. Haven't seen a makeup date yet.

20 comments:

crimsontider said...

"UPDATE-GAME IS POSTPONED" Where are you hearing this? I have not seen it reported at all.

Msmilie said...

I assume it will be played on Thursday night. The SEC already does a Thursday/Saturday schedule so it wouldn't be that big of a deal other than having to wait an extra day for the game.

crimsontider said...

Saw it, thanks.

crimsontider said...

They will play Thursday at 7:30 PM, per Rolltide.com, and UA twitter account.

Msmilie said...

The SEC website lists it as Thursday on SEC TV. Not sure how that works on the local stations. ESPN3 is probably the best bet.

crimsontider said...

I've heard no TV, and a live stream on AuburnTigers.com.

Msmilie said...

I actually turned the game off tonight. First time I've done that, I can't remember when. I hate to write this because I have defended Coach Grant to the point of exhaustion, but games like tonight can get you fired. This could prove to be a tipping point. Our guys have come out like they would rather be anywhere else. I mean, what the hell? If they're not going to put forth the effort, neither am I.

bobbyjack said...

Simple- If Grant isn't fired at the end of this season this program will be fighting with Auburn, South Carolina, and M $ U for last for a while.
Disgusting performance... I almost wish the entire staff gets the Lane Kiffin treatment early in the morning.

crimsontider said...

End this disgrace now!! Fire Anthony Grant!! Save Alabama basketball!!!

crimsontider said...

No reason that Grant should still be the coach. none. It is a full fledged abomination that the AD continues to allow the keys of the program to be held in this unqualified clowns hands. Fire him tomorrow, at the latest.

Alex said...

WARNING: LONG POST

It's become too hard to watch Alabama basketball for me.
In the end it all comes down to players. Great players won for Wimp when he was at Alabama just like great players win for Calapari at Kentucky, good coaching optional. (IMHO, Wimp underachieved with plenty of NBA 1st round talent)
If we fire our coach at the end of this year we will probably be looking at another 2 mediocre years, but at this point it's the right decision to make. I know the recruiting class is good, but it isn't program changing great. The problem is I'm not sure anyone can recruit the type of players we need to win big. The fan support is awful and the only games people really turn up for is when we play our biggest football rivals. Coleman is not a good arena and money never should have been sunk into renovating it in the first place, it sort of feels like we're stuck with it now and what recruit is going to walk away impressed by that?
If we hire someone else fans will get behind him for a while but the support will quickly dwindle if we aren't winning frequently which we won't be because there is an udder and complete lack of talent on the team sans Releford. Then what happens? Can the new coach bring recruits to a half full game at Coleman which we may or may not win and have them leaving impressed?
The common sense solution would be to hire someone who has won somewhere without much talent, but that was Grant 5 years ago right?
The better thing to do in my opinion is to hire someone who has made enough of a name for themselves that it makes a splash the college basketball world similar to what the football program did with Nick Saban. The problem is there aren't many coaches like that in basketball and all of them would laugh at a job at Alabama perpetually in the shadow of the football program.
I believe the best hire, the slam dunk - hole in one - home run, would be Gregg Marshall from Wichita State. He has proved he can win with less, but now he is actually making a name for himself as his team is undefeated and has a pretty good chance of staying that way until the NCAA tournament. I doubt we can get this guy, but god we have to try.
The second option, and I know most people here will vehemently disagree with this because they have in the past, is Bruce Pearl. People like to call him a scumbag and liar, but I heard the same things said about Saban and Calapari and they have both won championships. Hell people still say those things about them but what people really will remember in 50 years is the championships not the character flaws.

Alex said...

I said udder, I meant utter obviously. Had my mind on Auburn.

crimsontider said...

"Complete lack of talent" with all due respect, Grant has coached a top five recruiting class, and two mcdonalds all americans in his tenure. No need to sugarcoat it, he can't coach.

Alex said...

I'm talking about right now. We were a solid team with JaMychael(NIT finals, NCAA tournament) who was actually a pretty dominant player. We got one year our of Pollard, and I doubt he was focused on basketball seeing as the days were ticking until his conviction. Recruits don't always pan out. Remember Burton Scott and Tyler Love? I don't either, because they didn't play, but they were 5 star recruits signed by Saban.

crimsontider said...

To say that a team full of 4 and 5 star recruit has no talent is simply not accurate. The players are not developing, and that is on the coaches.

citadeltidefan said...

Long time reader of the blog. Last night should have been the last nail in the coffin for Anthony Grant. Its time for Bill Battle to make the right decision. The thing is we can hire someone who has proven that they can win at the major level in Ben Howland. Pearl would be a great hire but no team will hire him with that show clause in effect.

Msmilie said...

Thanks for reading.

As a longtime defender of Grant: Last night was bad, no way around it. I said earlier this season that, barring a disastrous sub .500 record, Grant was definitely back next season. After last night, I'm no longer sure of that. There's a definite feeling of the air being sucked out of the balloon. Games like last night can get you fired.

In the past, Grant's teams, despite the offensive woes, always competed, playing with grit. They lost a share of games, but were rarely kicked in the pants. That was the case earlier this season as well. But in the last two weeks we've seen two of the worst losses during Grant's tenure (Mizzou and last night) from an effort standpoint.

This team lacks consistent focus, toughness and leadership. Last night was embarrassing. After fighting back from the 12-0 start to get within 5, Auburn turned it up a notch and Alabama couldn't or wouldn't follow suit. Even Stewart and Passink were openly critical of the lack of effort and preparedness. Alabama was lucky to be down 8.Most teams would have come out looking to establish themselves in the first four minutes. Bama didn't come close to that. It's one thing if Auburn just played lights out, Alabama gave good effort but came up short. That happens all the time in college basketball. That didn't happen. What is most disappointing is that a team who finally had some positive momentum following the LSU game looked for large chunks of the game last night that they didn't give a shit. That's a serious problem.

A decision on Grant, yea or nay, won't be made by UA until after the season. And Grant may be locked in for another year regardless. However, if I'm Grant and his staff, I'm having a meeting last night or today about how to turn this around right now with it clearly understood that they're coaching for their jobs from this point forward.

citadeltidefan said...

What worries me is this quote made by C.M. Newton in an article that was in USA Today just a few days ago "A bunch of people want to get rid of him. I think he's on the hot seat in the minds of some, but not in the minds of anyone that counts." A link to the article below:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/sec/2014/01/25/sec-basketball-ncaa-tournament-florida-kentucky/4893353/

crimsontider said...

CM is just standing by the guy he Championed for before and when he was hired. Plain, and simple, CM has no knowledge of what Bill Battle is thinking, also this was before last nights abomination.

Msmilie said...

If you think CM has no knowledge of what's happening in the UA athletic department regarding basketball, you're fooling yourself. CM is still connected in Tuscaloosa. I'll put more stock in his opinion than yours right now.

With that said: If there wasn't any pressure internally before, the game last night probably changed some things. People who have been Grant supporters through thick and thin are handing in their membership cards this morning. Even a diehard Grant homer like myself is struck with uncertainty of the future after last night. As I said in the previous post, Grant and his staff need to see the writing on the wall and improve some things quickly because I'm not sure next year is guaranteed at this point.